What`s up 
I`ve got an expierence with theese guys  that were mentioned before. 
https://forum.creative-destruction.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=302804&highlight=programming
https://wowgilden.net/forum-topic_421885.html
https://forkwell.connpass.com/event/240639/#feed
http://wastedwarlocks.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=360639&pid=802669#pid802669
https://essaysn786.wixsite.com/mysite/post/technology-vs-communication-3
 
And I watned to claim thanks!

Ernestfig